Is Four Percent A Scam, Or Legit Way To Make Cash Step By Step?
While I was browsing Quora for something unrelated, I saw a response on Quora that used an affiliate link, sending people to the Four Percent sales page. Except, it was actually an outdated version, which I will mention in a moment.
I originally talked about a previous version of the Four Percent program here.
I’d heard of the Four Percent group before and reviewed it – I did immediately recognise the guy speaking. I was Vick Strizheus and he’s made a lot of money online, but not always honestly, if you believe all the stories about him.
There are MANY comments online, who feel they’ve been scammed by this guy.
He has been connected to some controversial programs in the past. Such as, high traffic academy and project breakthrough.
There was also another program called Big Idea Mastermined and this was a funnel into a high ticket program, the Empower Network.
I’ve met a serious number of people who have felt scammed by the Empire Network. In any case, Big Idea Mastermind was closed down and I’ve seen many people who were stung by that too and lost their money.
I noticed Ethan Vanderbuilt discussed his own views on Vick and his history here – Ethan also claims that High Traffic Academy was a scam.
The whole article makes for an enlightening read in general, (check out the comment section too!!!).
So, you may want to check it out for yourself and form your own opinion. I also noticed that some people have reported Four Percent to Clickbank ..All the way back to 2016.
It’s since changed and evolved. It seems to have resided under several URLS in the past, which I will mention in a moment.
Some people want to say that this guy is the real deal, as he’s made a lot of money.
Just because he’s made a lot of money, this doesn’t mean you should trust what he says… nor give him your money.
There again, it doesn’t mean that some of the training he provides isn’t valuable, as he will have had plenty of experience in this area.
In any case, it encouraged me to take a quick look again at what is involved in this program and give you my take on it. Is Four Percent group just a scam?
What Is Four Percent About?
Four Percent is an internet marketing training program that claims to give you the information and training you need to get from zero dollars, to $10,000 per month and then beyond.
There are additional $100,000 challenge and the $1,000,000 challenge.
But before you progress to $100,000 challenge, you’re meant to already be pulling in regular $10,000 months.
That’s quite a claim! But it’s not one that’s unusual when it comes to affiliate marketing, or internet marketing in general.
The training consists of simple tasks that you can complete without feeling overwhelmed, (a common reason why people quit trying to make money online).
This program seems to have changed domains and names several times.
It was the four percent challenge originally I believe, then seemed to be called the four percent group.
There seems to have been various domains, so I am unsure if the training has changed. Now it seems to simply be “Four Percent…”
There seem to be too open sales pages, one which is outdated: www.thefourpercentgroup.com
One that is still seemingly live, but not updated for a while and still connected with clickback:
One that is more current is: https://fourpercent.com/
I see some promotional sites that are still linking to the clickbank product – who have recently written reviews. So, I’m not sure what’s going on.
Ultimately, this program focuses on teaching you how you can make money from affiliate marketing. If you’re unsure what that is, this posts explains it.
As an affiliate, you sell other peoples products and receive a commission when someone buys something, (or, in some cases, perform a certain action – like sign up for a newsletter or website).
Unlike many affiliate marketing scams, where you only promote the product you buy into. Four Percent encourages you to become affiliates to already well known products and legitimate ones.
These include – Aweber, Namecheap, Clickfunnels, GetResponse. All completely above board products.
So far so good! The trick here however, is that you need to buy into all these products in order to set up the marketing funnel that Vick lays out for you.
This is a Clever move for Vick, because he will make affiliate commissions from you signing up to all these things and every other person that joins the Four Percent and signs up to these products.
You click through those highlighted links above and Vick will get commissions from every one of you signing up and will continue to get commissions recurring monthly for some, unless you cancel your accounts.
Suddenly your initial monthly payment will sky rocket, as each of these services cost money. At the time of writing, the products will cost you the following:
Click Funnels: $97 per month. Great product by the way, but not for people who don’t already have a decent email list to sell to.
No point having this service unless you’re either generating a tonne of traffic, or have an engaged list that will trust your product suggestions… oh, and they also have to actually need/want these products obviously….
4 Percent group standard membership: $47 monthly
AWEBER: $19 monthly
NameCheap: Around $11 a year.
Click Magick:At least $12 a month.
The high ticket item tecademics, $100 per month, or one off fee $12,000.
You don’t have to pay for this high ticket item…but if you don’t, you will not recieve a commission if any of your referrals purchase it via you, (which would mean missing out on a 40% commission!).
A common theme of internet marketing courses:
I have noticed that a large chunk of courses like this, work on the basis that they will basically give you a ready made sales funnel, where you simply need to set it up v.quickly with your affiliate IDs.
Then you drive traffic to these products, (this is the problem, so wait a moment) and you will receive commissions.
Many times, I will see that the products on offer are really just the course itself, which is how the creator of the program cashes in.
Alternatively, you purchase products through their links first, so they then have you locked in to certain services whereby they get a monthly recurring commission.
You’re stuck as well, because you are also promoting these products and need to remain a member in order to keep this funnel they provide you with in operation.
The longer you’re stuck in this system, the more commissions that Vick can generate from you.
For me, legitimate programs are not going to lock you in to a system – but allow you gain the knowledge and skills so that you can create your own business and do not have to rely on this model.
Some people claim that Vick really wants you to learn and then spread your wings and fly off on your own.
I’m not so sure about that at all and this system for me, is certainly not something that encourages you to build your own business.
You can learn how to create a sales funnel and be an affiliate to these products, without relying on this system.
This sales funnel is not what will make you money on its own – what you need to make money from this funnel…. is traffic.
Not just any traffic…. but traffic that is going to convert too.
Unfortunately, Vick does not make this easy for you either. As the methods taught are largely paid methods, or pretty insufficient ones, like relying on social media.
There are also some free methods discussed such as YouTube and social media in general.
While you can certainly generate traffic via these means, social media can certainly be an unreliable one.
You can’t just rely on social media to drive enough traffic to your offer and again, this is going to be cold traffic generally.
YouTube is very good at driving traffic, if you’re comfortable creating video and you could build up a fanbase from that angle.
Although, generally to be successful on YouTube, you’re going to need ot be creating a lot of videos- some YouTubers suggest creating a video per day at first.
If you go down the paid traffic route, this could lead you into a whole other financial meltdown, as ploughing your cash into paid traffic methods can be extremely expensive and is a dangerous route for beginners.
You’re not driving quality traffic to these offers often either. This could be cold traffic that has no interest or trust in you, or in your products.
I’ve personally seen many people plough thousands of dollars into paid advertising, with zero return. It can take considerable trial and error before you hit gold and that can be costly.
Most of my traffic currently comes from FREE methods. Does it take time? Yep, tonnes or time and effort. But it is free and having a blog or website that people follow an learn about you, is one way you can build trust over time.
How Much Is Four Percent?
Originally, there was one payment option.
Now there are various, starting from $7 per month, to $49 per month…. to $5000 per month….
In addition to that, you’ll have to sign up to various products and services, which I outline below.
It appears to have come some way from the first Four Percent that I initially saw.
I’m not sure if the members from one Four Percent get moved on to these new additions, or if they’re just left behind.
Have you joined four percent… what do you think of the training? Let me know in the comments.
Vick Talks About Competition promoting products online…
Vick says if you just pick a good clickbank product online and try and sell it, you’re likely competing with hundreds of other marketers, perhaps even using the same traffic sources…
Which is kind of weird, because he himself is teaching thousands of affiliates to all use a sales funnel promoting a bunch of the same products & probably also using many of the same traffic sources.
In any case, what doesn’t work is when a lot of internet marketing programs teach you to generate cold traffic towards a product, or a squeeze page. This will convert extremely badly, because no one is going to trust you.
You need to warm up your audience before you start selling anything and this comes down to trust.
If you just send someone directly to a clickbank sales page without warning, guaranteed most will leave and not least because most of those sales pages just look like scams from the get-go.
If you have someone telling you a product is good that you already have some knowledge of and some respect for, you’re much more likely to buy it. Why would anyone trust you, that doesn’t know anything about you?
Building trust is something that many programs don’t really go into, because ultimately trust takes time to build and most people are only interested in making money quickly, not building up something over a long period of time.
Hype Hype Hype:
There are lots of video testimonials from people who claim this program has changed their lives. This whole set up reminds me a lot of MOBE – another program with some very high ticket upsells.
These programs will contain some training that is beneficial and plenty of motivational speak to get you hyped up and determined.
But it does surprise me how so many people can follow and look up to someone who clearly has a highly questionnable past and has undoubtedly been untrustworthy in the past.
Pros vs Cons
– $7 starter membership. If you’re not sure about diving into a $49 a month membership program, the $7 a month option means you can check out if it’s for you.
– Will be some worthwhile training here, that you could learn from and a lot of motivational type stuff, if that’s your thing.
– Vick has a really bad track record, I wouldn’t say it’s the best idea to put your money and faith behind someone like that.
– This program makes huge claims, it’s hyped up and won’t deliever on what it’s promising.
– The program is geared towards trapping you within a system, that’s my opinion. It doesn’t matter whether you make affiliate comissions, because Vick is already earning them from your own monthly subscriptions. He has an invested interest in you keeping the funnel going.
– This program is not teaching you how to be independent and learn all this by yourself. If the program shut tomorrow, most people wouldn’t know where to start creating their own business!
What happens if four percent fails?
Other courses of Vicks have failed or closed down eventually, what about this one?
For most of the members, if Vick decided to shut up shop, his members would be left clueless about how to go about setting up their own business. Because they will have been fully reliant on this system!
If you truly want to be independent, go and set up your own sales funnel from scratch, create your own website and don’t rely on someone else to set it all up for you. Knowledge is power, you can learn it all by yourself.
Is Four Percent For Real?
This is not a fake product, it will contain some training and info to help you on your way to making some money online, if that’s the route you want to take.
Can you make money with this? Yes, it’s possible.
Although, for a total beginner, I would imagine trying to drive cold traffic to these offers and getting enough money to turn a profit, may be difficult.
Most people will be inclined to quit before they reach that point.
I will tell you one thing though…
If you think you’re going to be turning around $10k months in a hurry and moving on to the $100,000 tier – you are mistaken!
Also, vick talks about Clickbank products being over saturated.
What what about this system? If all the people in the Four Percent are all promoting these same set of products……..you do the math.
I don’t think competition is always an issue, you can still make money selling these products – but really, if you’re also trying to get people to sign up with this program, it only takes someone a two second google search to check out Vicks history.
Another reality is – diving into paid traffic sources as a beginner can commonly lead in failure, (and a lot of money lost).
If you’re going to go into that, you should make sure you do plenty of research and have a good budget to get started.
Unfortunately, it’s people who tend to be short on money that this type of program attracts.
Build Your Own Online Business – From Scratch
You can build up the skills and knowledge to do all this yourself.
But it isn’t a quick fix!
Internet marketers will often say it’s practically impossible for newbies to make money online, because they can’t compete with the big boys online, they on’t have email lists of 100,000’s and so on…
But they say all this to overwhelm you and often to entice you into buying into their “done for you system,” so that they can benefit from your affiliate commissions.
You can learn how to make money online from scratch, it’s not always going to be smooth sailing, but at least in the end, you will have something that is YOURS alone!!
Another good thing with creating your OWN website, is that you don’t just have to go down one route and promote one set of products.
You can go into a variety of different niches, you can go into something that interests you.
You can switch things up whenever you want and promote whatever you’re passionate about.
You will make mistakes, but it’s all part of the process.
If you’re interested in building something from scratch that will be yours and don’t rely on a made-for-you system…
All the best,